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TLS 0.37.3
- Further bugfixes and refinements.
- The major change is that making Altina's custom weapon now grants affection where it didn't before.
This version received more polishing than most, so I hope people find the Stenai update challenging but fair.
After this, I am going to have to deal with some things. You will see some new announcements over the coming month and an older project will release. I hope that these will not delay the release of 0.38.0 too much. It will be a shorter update dealing with the aftermath of the Stenai event, and will include new investment returns and new research options.
Okay nice, commenting here cause I can't be bothered to log on to patreon.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your ongoing support - hope you enjoy!
DeleteIs Stenai meant to not have any BGM (music) whatsoever? The spooky silence gets to me.
ReplyDeleteIt's supposed to have a new unique track as BGM. I just checked again on my end and it seems to work fine, so I'm not sure what the issue might be, sorry.
DeleteFound the issue. The "Stenai" audio file is an MP3 instead of an OGG file. Converted it to the proper format and it works fine now, you'll probably want to fix that.
DeleteWoops, didn't notice that. Ogg version:
Deletehttps://www.dropbox.com/s/ajrq6vecj8yb3ss/Stenai.ogg?dl=0
Thanks, will swap it in!
DeleteHooray! It is here, thank you so much for all your hard work on this game. It's really a cut above the rest. I wish more mainstream games did what The Last Sovereign does.
ReplyDeleteThank you for the encouragement! I hope you enjoy the update. ^-^
DeleteActual footage of me getting to "that" part in the Tower:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyK7T-7vCro
I'm not sure if I should kiss you or hate your guts for what you've done to me...
DeleteCan someone give me a hint on the tower puzzle? I'm stuck after opening 2 swtiches. 1 of the switch stays stuck and won't let me flip it and the other (the 1st avaible switch) doesn't affect any doors that lead to more switches.
ReplyDeleteYou have to keep moving on with the plot. At a certain point, the ghastly guide will unravel the other switches. There are three switches that don't move, and opening them all will unlock the way to a Shining Sword. Oh, and be on the look-out for switches that open or close a pathway to a chest. It leads to a REALLY great shield.
DeleteGo to the acid pond and then go south.
DeleteTook me a while to figure it out too
Sierra Lee, I almost skipped this update when I heard it was "small", but after the fake out... just wow. I'd explain more but that would be spoiling to the people reading this and I rather not spoil yet. Just want to say, you really know how to weave a romantic narrative in everything you do. Keep it up.
ReplyDeleteThanks, glad you liked the twist!
DeleteYour game is great. But by the end of this update, I realy hope that you are sincere when you say that you aim for a true happy ending. My guts tell me something will go very wrong for the heros.
ReplyDeleteI have questions :
1 : Is Renna, the servant of the spoiled princess, linked to the Fuani servant quest ? I did not manage to recrute her, did I miss anything ?
2 : How much of chapter 4 has been done ? Based on the number of version, I would say 50% if it's as long as chapter 3, but it's seam there is a lot to solve (Fucklord, Lustlord, Anak, Bloodlord ?, Aram, Religion, Adolon, Esthera, the Shard, Ivala and her sisters).
3 : Will the "other" in the harem menu stay in this way or will it be replaced by something else once we start to recrute characters that fit in this categorie ?
Thank you again for your game. It's impressive to see that you manage to do it alone.
Just making a guest to 2 of your question.
Delete1. We will have to go back to Stenai so theres still a chance to recruit her later.
2. just guessing but we might be long way theres still the succession crisis and theres the erosian invasion and the issue with Aram and Eustrin and the development of Takkan, Chalice State and New Givini and the dugeon that cause 5M.
Well, it will be a fundamentally happy ending, but that doesn't mean a "happily ever after" and there can be bittersweet elements too.
DeleteAnyway, I'm happy to hear you like my work and this update!
1) You didn't miss anything, you can't recruit her yet.
2) The goal is to make it about as long as chapter 3. Many of the issues you bring up won't be resolved until chapter 5. That said, there's definitely a lot of ground to cover.
3) It will stay "Other" - some of the people there will fit a theme, but not all.
Damn, there go my "other = godess" theory.
DeleteAnyway, thank you for your answer. I'm looking foward to the next update.
Wow, great update Sierra I really liked it!
ReplyDeleteYou might be right that at this point some people can predict most of what remains to happen, but you've been swerving me pretty hard on how those things are happening and in what order they are happening. I have no idea what the climax of chapter 4 is going to be and all bets are off on what the stakes will be for the endgame. I love it!
I just have one question, are you planning on ever showing us more of what Simon was like while he was grieving for Wendis? I'm curious about how that grief influenced some of Simon's decisions at that point in his life (travelling the world; adopting a child).
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it! Planning a story is always a balance of having fun twists while still keeping story cohesion and foreshadowing.
DeleteI actually don't have any plans to show that period of Simon's life, as I think it's difficult to build an engaging story around intense, numbing grief. His time traveling the world was wandering to find purpose, while adopting Robin had less to do with grief.
That's fair.
DeleteI personally imagined the possibility that Simon had isolated himself so much in his grief that it could have made him lose sight of why he fights for a better world. Raising Robin is what would have helped him regain his perspective and his drive to continue fighting even if he couldn't find any solutions to the problems of the world during his travels.
That's my head-canon anyway, this update really did make me interested on what Simon's "wasted" years were like.
That's a nice head-canon that won't be contradicted by the game, I can tell you that much. ^-^
DeleteHi, please let me know if this isn't the appropriate place to comment on bugs. I have a game in which I never recruited/saw Altina again, yet for the last two (free) updates she has appeared in the party/formation menu as an option (despite not appearing in scenes/conversations, as she was never recruited). Moreover, when entering the 'formation' menu I cannot make a party/return to the main menu without including Altina (I can 'remove' her from the party unlike Simon, but I cannot 'finish' the party formation unless she is one of the four 'active'/'battle' members). I would only like to add that I love the update! You do good work, sorry to clog the comments if bug reports should be elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteThis is the right place for bugs! Having said that, this issue is difficult to diagnose - what I need to know is that moment that Altina first started accidentally appearing in the party. Another person reported the same thing, down to Altina being tagged as required, but we haven't been able to pinpoint the time/circumstances it occurs.
DeleteAnyway, glad you liked the update!
I wanted to second this. My first playthrough was far from optimal and I am getting slaughtered in the dark tower dungeon now that I'm stuck with fighting with an even weaker Altina.
DeleteHi, Sierra, loved the update, but there's seems to be a bug. After Simon said 'take my hand' in the tower, Simon sprite move forward one time and the game just locked from there and there's nothing I can do to make it continue. I would love for a fix to this since i'm dying to know the continuation (I already guess what about to happen, but guessing and seeing is two different thing). Thank you.
ReplyDeleteDidn't happen to me... back-up your save and try reinstalling the patch, or grab the RTP version. I know for a fact it worked on that.
DeleteAnd pro-tip, for the scenes following "Take my hand", you're gonna want tissues
fixed. It seems to be a problem from my save. Replaying from earlier save fixed it.(Which is the Before the Stenai update, god I really need to make multiple save after each important point) Thanks.
DeleteI've never been able to replicate this, but another person reported it as well. My best guess is that an invisible event is blocking the movement, but only under rare conditions. I can make modifications to try to deal with that outcome.
DeleteWhen I got the bug, I cleared every enemy before approaching the bottom. While when I replay it, I didn't bother clearing everything. The bug might have something to do with that, I doubt it though. Because if that's the case then the completionist would also report the bug as well. Still, this might give you a clue.
DeleteHello Sierra!
ReplyDeleteThe update was great, I was really looking forward to something I didn't anticipate and I was not disappointed :)
However, unfortunately I came here to report a bug - I've been replaying the game and am stuck at the Bloody Spire. Every time I finish the battles, I get to talk to the orc and then get a Game Over. I posted this on the wiki and I was told that the party that would be next (Hilstara/Varia) has 0 HP, probably because of their last fight with a certain succubus lady. So, in order to continue I have to go back to their last fight and make sure they're alive.
I would have never figured this out on my own, since there are two sections between this, and I imagine it would be hard for others as well to find out why they suddenly Game Over because somebody was knocked out 30 minutes ago, so I would kindly request that you would implement a way to circumvent this :)
Thanks a lot and keep up your awesome work!
p.s.: I posted more fan-art on tumblr! Here are the links: https://annikaths-sin.tumblr.com/post/176119369401/sierraleensfw-its-my-favorite-princess-nalili & https://annikaths-sin.tumblr.com/post/176016774888/sierraleensfw-hi-i-really-wanted-to-finish-this
I'm glad you liked the update!
DeleteRegarding the issue you mentioned: this is an unfortunate thing that can happen when I swap the party around through multiple scenes. I try to set up to avoid this possibility, just in case, but missed this one. Anyway, I added a heal after the party switch so it shouldn't be an issue in the future!
Thank you very much for your fanart! You do such nice threesomes. ^-^ Also, I see that you made a comment on your previous piece ages ago and I never saw it. D= My intention certainly wasn't to ignore you, I'm just not native to Tumblr! I'll go add your link right away, and I'll show your new work to people later this weekend. Thanks again!
Well that was uplifting.
ReplyDeleteYou got me good on the midway point. I had to get up and walk away for a minute, Ha!
I like how dificult the tower was, I managed to get picked off while using the never-die squad (Carina + Hilstara) because I was being careless.
I really appreciate how the shield opens up the pin slot agian. Also managed to crit the last node with it on Simon. It was at near full health so it took a second for me to realize why the fight ended.
All hail the Doom Queen. I don't know what to say about it really, but it was heartwarming so thanks.
Stineford: west entrance gaurd says the acadamy is locked down but it's not (I think).
Glad to hear you liked so many pieces of this update! I had fun with that midpoint, and then I tried to give a set of real challenges with the Tower.
DeleteStineford: Not sure I found the line you mean, sorry.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qcl10ztvcbitm0l/Screenshot%202018-09-02%2015.45.28.png?dl=0
DeleteOh! Sorry, Tower, your explanation was clear enough but I misread you. Anyway, this line is made consistent, thanks to you both!
DeleteHello Sierra Lee,
ReplyDeleteI am glad for this part. Actually when this being of hate appeared the first time in the Tower I was like: "IT'S WENDIS! I am sure it is!" And I dont mean this in a bad way. You tend to not randomly introduce new cast if there is cast from the earlier story. I commend your storytelling-skills.
Its just that I am a bit disapointed with Wendis arc in this chapter so far. If you want to hear them let me tell you my thoughts:
First: I know that you lost someone and I dont want to create negative emotions with this. My feedback aims only towards a storytelling level.
So Wendis was in a non-phyiscal abyss for 30 years killed in an unfair world in an needless war, tormented by the abyss and "nearly lost herself" (her words)
I think you wasted potential with her arc. First, I really REALLY appreciate that the monsters show her Emotions. I notices that early but the RPG-Reflex was just like "Eh, its RPG. The monsters kinda fit the Mood. Nice"
But with the bosses in the chambers it became clear that the monsters represent her. With wendis even saying that the most monsters in that Lust chamber aim toward Simon that was a reaal reveal for me. Different forms of Lust monsters but also Regret and hate in the chamber. All aiming at him. It was like a metaphisical riddle, and I was SURE, DEAD DURE that in te abyss you will face Wendis herself. She was just TOO casual with all of this, and with the monsters I was certain that she was very twisted and nearly not human anymore at all, so that she just forced her little human self into this tiny form, while the whole dungeon and the monsters represent the twisted overgrown parts of her. And in the end oin the abyss you have to overcome the hate of her. So all the monsterkilling would be a metaphorical cleaning up mission in her twsted, shattered soul.
But right after the fight Yarra made a Joke about Vagina monsters and Wendis cleared up that they are in fact seperate beeings that came to be trough wendis human thoughts, and the final boss has been the Tower Nodes.
DeleteAlso the story achnoledges that she is an abomination, and has her dark sides, also the ambition to destroy everything. BUT she is way to casual, so composed about it. I think that this is a wasted emotional journey. Let me get please give an example:
When an adopted child which had bad traumas from its past and early childhood, it starts, LIKE Wendis, as a nice person as soon as it understands that the new parents really want to help it and love it. It truely understands their honest love, like Wendis understands Simons love and the niceness of the Sucubus and Unwoman in the company. THe kid will behave in its best form and truly show its gratitude and affaction to the new parents.
But at the very moment the kid with the emotional scars feels truely save, and feels that it truely is accapted and universally loved in tha family it unsually switches. The Monster within the kid will come out, and it will be the very worst version it can possibly be. This is a natural process, because the kid opens up to such a fundamental level, that the hurt and scars, usually covered by carefull composer and fear and frustration gets opened again. Because to the process of healing these wounds it is natural to also open them up again, and let them heal in a healthy way.
Its like an test: Without knowing the kid askes the parents: "Do you really love me? Can you really love the Monster that I am?"
And when the parrents succeed and love the kid trough the phase, then the true phase of healing can start.
THis is not only the case with adopted children, but with ever sould hurt on an fundamental level. And I am sure Wendis twisted soul is in that regard.
I feel her arc missed the chance for both empathic understandment for true suffering including the ever existing chance for a person that survived the depths of dispair to redeem itself, with the help of LOVE.
Also the story wasted a bit of potential to dive deeper into Magical matters. Like how she was not that Avatar, but truely the whole towerplane, including the monsters, which are her feelings taking shape. And her effort to keep te human level lovable. Like ashizoprenic beeing. Lovable and nearly human to 5%, trying to confuse the in the maze, to protect its inner secrets in the maze with the switches and to outright kill them with the monsters to 95%.
And even after that a moment when she and simon are alone and she does not only show remorse and sadness, but let her bright fassade finally crumble and scream in pain, tears and agony, maybe even injuring simon, damaging parts of the house, stuff like that. With him beeing there for her, until she calms down.
But maybe you are still getting to such parts later in her story. I would highly approve of this.
If not then I truelly suggest that you think about if you want to change the arc a bit in retrospect?
But keep up the good work anyway. Thank you
Hi, thanks for giving your detailed thoughts. I don't mind extended criticism from people who care a lot about the story.
DeleteI respect your reaction here. I intended the scene afterward, where Wendis tells Simon she was pretending to be bright like before, to carry more weight than it clearly did for some people. Perhaps the best thing I can say in response is that Wendis has a long road ahead of her yet on the path to her healing.
I'd also like to throw in my two cents that the reunion with Wynn could have had a lot more weight to it, I would have kept Wynn in the dark about Wendis until the party returns to the real world and retrieves your corpse-bride. Then rather than her being sex-crazed halfing, she should have a much more emotional moment. More love, less lust.
DeleteIt's still a good scene, but that's just how I woulda played it
You know what? One more suggestion! :D
DeleteIFFFFFF you happen to establish a greater redeeming-arc of Wendis considering ome of the thoughts I shared with you in my review I have an suggestion:
Let Wendis HURT Simon in real game dynamics. (A bit like the proto-succubus, maybe?)IN battle screen or out-of-battle doesnt matter to me.
The player can choose to defend against her or to accept the pain.
The mechanic for this could be:
The more you let her hurt you the more she can return to herself, the earlier you intervene the greater the loss. If you are hurt to much you die or land in a coma, loosing a opporunity or something.
The factors could be:
Simons Level = Less dying when hurt
Special Defenses (armors, Robins Magic) = Much Shield, Less Dying
Relationshippoints to those present = Higher relationship maybe means more trust in him, to little relationship maybe late reactions that would put themselfs in danger. 100% maybe taking part of the damage amonst themselfs.
If their RP are too high to ignore him but too low to fully trust his choice they could intervene and stop the process.
I think this could be an amazing experience. One that truly gets the player thinking.
Anyway: Best of luck and fun for you!
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ReplyDeleteLove this game thanks Sierra.
ReplyDeleteSuch a short update only stenai plot no hard dungeon or op bosses XD
but did i miss something while playing this update? it is possible to get altina custom weapon? to me she say that i need to find a mage.
TLS 0.37.3
- The major change is that making Altina's custom weapon now grants affection where it didn't before.
You have a chance to get Altina's weapon while you are in Stenai.
DeleteGlad you liked the update despite its shortness and lack of plot twists. XD
Hey SL, I started playing the the FL invasion again and I choose to use the charge on Aram I check the walkthrought but why is the choice I get is for Aram lost instead of Zirathian Lost?
ReplyDeleteI could try to help if you were more specific. What happened exactly?
DeleteYes, sorry, I'm unclear on what exactly you mean.
DeleteI used the magic charge on aram and I fauoght agaisnt reaality leach but the choice I got is
DeleteFocus on impeding him -3 Aram Tower; +1 Erosian Captives
Focus on rescuing captives -1 Fucklord Confrontation; -3 Aram Tower; +3 Erosian Captives
Focus on protecting Aram -1 Fucklord Confrontation;+1 Erosian Captives
this are choices for Aram lost it should be Ziratian lost.
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DeleteNever mind I check again its Ziratian lost but the choice is the one that should appear is for Aram lost, well if you follow the wiki.
Deleteheres what the wiki says.
Back at the Aramite fragment, Vhala's group is reinforced by Aka, Qum and Robin (if she is not drained). They have to clear the area of Erosian forces.
If Aram was not overrun, there's a blue flame boss fight (Reality Leech) in the central area. Otherwise ("Aram Lost"), it's replaced by a static group of Erosians. Defeating the group in front of the violet crystals finishes the area and Hilstara's squad has to choose their tactics. The results of your choice depend on which fragment was "lost":
Overrun fragment Tactics choice Effects
Aram Lost
(they run before the Fucklord arrives) Focus on impeding him -3 Aram Tower; +1 Erosian Captives
Focus on rescuing captives -1 Fucklord Confrontation; -3 Aram Tower; +3 Erosian Captives
Focus on protecting Aram -1 Fucklord Confrontation;+1 Erosian Captives
Zirantia Lost
(the Fucklord shows up and gets hit with magic charges) Focus on assisting other groups +2 Fucklord Confrontation; +2 Erosian Captives
Focus on rescuing captives -3 Aram Tower; +5 Erosian Captives
Focus on Protecting Aram +2 Aram Tower; +2 Erosian Captives
Honestly I;m just confused? I haven't slept properly in days
DeleteWhile it's possible that there is an error, things look normal to me when I try to check. It's possible that ambiguity in the section or something on the wiki may have made it more confusing. Please try and get some sleep if you can!
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ReplyDeleteI'm somewhat disappointed.. I was prepared for an really hard decision between two princesses and their houses but well this arc was pretty boring instead. AT least it spared the decision for me. Still I'm wondered why we didn't had an meeting back home with our choice, that puppy kicking beast. I don't want to do much with her, but she is an asset. There must be an way to use her for something.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure how to feel about Wendis. It feels weird for me, at least for now.
For me the best thing on the update was the harbor. I saw an preview picture of it and pled for mercy. I arrived at the port and needed an moment to prepare myself. Finally saw the first group and was happy because it was at least not an big group. After my first attack I had to laugh and was really relieved and damn happy.
Yes, the princesses part was bait and switch. Sorry it didn't work for you.
DeleteYou'll get to see the puppy kicker in 0.38.0.
I can't hardly wait :-P.
DeleteSorry i found a really terrible bug;): in the inbetween room when we check the RP points Wendis is not in the list there!!
ReplyDeleteMy Thoughts: First my condolence for your loss hope you don´t need a shard to got out of it. We are very short on them in this reality.
Second i like it and i look forward on her reaction to having a daughter right now she only sees RObin as a young mage in the harem so that conversation could be interresting also when Nalili try to get in good grades with her stepmom ;)
Third: Will Riala get Synergy skills or better Yarra, Robin, Altina when Riala is present or will she start educating Robin and Robin get new skills by that?
Not sure if it a bug or a oversight but The skeleton stands in front of some boxes? accidental that that have a diffrent switch or intended?
Also it is sad that we didn´t get hobbit sweets ;)
Also Carina and Wendis talking with Orcent about religion that could became hilarious or even better than the bar talks ;)
Keep going! Great Work!
Haha, yes, I'll rush out a new build to address that right away! =P
DeleteAnyway, I'm glad you liked many elements of this update. ^-^ You can count on Robin and Nalili conversations in the future.
Riala will get some synergy skills, but she'll always have fewer than the earlier members. I want this to be somewhat of a balancing element, since Riala is strong enough to stand alone in many scenarios.
The boxes... whoops, no, that's an oversight!
Ok Riala get Synergy skills that great news i thought in other way round that the others have skills if Riala is around. Other thing will the none fight memebr teach the fight member skills? Wynn should be able to teach Yarra the combined death lust magic we saw in the war?
DeleteAnd after the The Hilstarra Wendis scene i think a Wendis Qum interaction could get to good so now i stop about thinking what if and add some more facts to the wiki.
Other oversight we get told that we are not sure if the PRON from the tower is real and that we should let Megail check that when we get back it is added to our PROn and Megail dont check it? ( at least in this version?)
Also i need to admit that i accidentially found some PRON for that Mermaids the look really good!
You'll see some more skills of various kinds, but I can't make exact promises. Synergy skills are one of the things I don't have planned in detail.
DeleteYou can definitely expect Wendis/Qum interactions in the future. ^-^
Megail will talk about the ProN next time.
Will there be any new minor updates for 0.37 or is this it.
ReplyDeleteJust asking so that i can talk to Wendis and end
I believe this should be it. The bugs reported are too minor to require a 0.37.4 and none of them would change game balance.
DeleteWendis is cool and all, but I think we can agree that the real treasure was finding that sweet FREE Pron!
ReplyDeleteHas been a while, nice progress so far, your dedication to the project is humbling, we should keep it in mind as a good example.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, it seems I have missed something, the former fighting ring at the Slums still remains there broken even after reaching the final state. I have checked the house of petitions and it still does not mention the alternative (after refusing to rebuild it the first time). Is this because there is no alternative or it is something not yet implemented?
So far my only complaint is that I got 9 votes out of 14 and they still did not get to Sho's vote. How are you rounding it? This will not prevent her from joining the main group at the HQ, will it?
By the way, Hilstara, Nalili and Carina are giving some nice vybes. Looking forward to how this will develop, particularly Carina given how the bottle has been opened during the confrontation against the Fucklord and how things are changing by meeting other beings at the tower. Would it be asking too much for you to tease us about her meeting Ivala face to face?
Hmm, the things you bring up are a bit difficult to evaluate from my end, sorry if these responses aren't too helpful.
DeleteThe fighting ring (both versions) is full implemented content, but it isn't guaranteed to appear. You need to fund it via the second house of petitions in the slums. I'm not sure if it's possible to miss out on it altogether or not, will have to check further.
9/14 = 64% by my calculations. You need 65% to have Sho join for the near future, sorry.
I won't offer hints about Carina, other than to say you have some interesting things to look forward to!
About the fighting ring, there were three options when it was first mentioned at the house of petitions. To fund it, to not do anything at that moment and to refuse it (don't like fights). Refusing it does work with the option to fund it being removed, but there is no new alternative afterwards, even with a final stage Yhilin the building is still decrepit.
DeleteBut missing the full 65% mark does not mean she will be lost, only that she will not join on that occasion, right?
Oh, I am definitely looking forward to it.
I may have misunderstood you with the fighting ring. You're saying you refused the proposal to build it, right? I added that option for players with strong opinions, but there's no alternative. If you don't rebuild the building, it stays as it is. I suppose I could add some flavor text to the building to cover this case.
DeleteRight now there's only one chance to get Sho, but there will be another later, yes.
That indeed. How about replace the building with a garden instead of just some flavor text?
DeleteGood to know, I have been prioritizing the Chalice States and second New Givini, not like I abandoned the Orcs but it is difficult to manage the outcomes I want with financial returns... Maybe I should use the wiki more... Hopefully I will not regret researching Sex/Purity magic and then Unpeople, the synergy potential is too high despite the wiki advising against the first one.
Actually, if you don't mind, how would you rate: https://ufile.io/0lvbn
I just got to Stenai now why are the buildings don't have doors?
ReplyDeleteIt's a visual-only glitch that will be fixed next build.
DeleteOkay.
ReplyDeleteAny chance we'll see in depth interactions between Robin and the new character? their histories could make for an interesting dynamic.
ReplyDelete100% chance! Robin is being cautious at this stage.
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ReplyDeleteYou little developer... You made caught off-guard with the fake cut there... I did enjoy it though, let's talk the story of Stenai and Wendis the Abyssal Wife
ReplyDeleteI was actually relieved to NOT make a choice... Seriously, after the Fucklord Confrontation and all... a straightforward and simple task was I need... then you gave me the same feel when I dropped down to the Devil Pass Dungeon except after picking up the 3 succubusses you multiplied it by 10, then there is that Wendis arc that I will be definitely waiting... Concerned on how will you pull this together, I'm currently thinking of a lot possible endings for Wendis, given the interaction of the girl/parasite in the Extradimensional HQ, I have to poke through everything now.
Will definitely wait for the next major update...
I wanted this to be a short and simple
Glad the fakeout worked for you, and glad to hear you enjoyed the update!
DeleteI love some developer surprises
DeleteReally liked how you handled the Stenai princesses. I saw the first girl and deadpanned as loli's aren't my thing. Then I did the conversation with the second, and laughed...then grew worried as I thought the entire 'choice' might be the way you were going to trick us by actually giving us only one choice. Glad it didn't come to that. While obviously a rather short arc with little real fighting, I actually enjoyed it. The bait and switch alongside the comments on the group's fighting skills made it an amusing interlude.
ReplyDeleteAs for Wendis, I'm one of those who thought as soon as we saw that being in the Tower that it was her. I was fearful though you'd have this be a punishment arc, making Simon have to 'put to rest' his now insane wife or something. Much prefer this, although I hope you draw out her getting a body for a while. Even if I've been suspicious ever since Wynn claimed she might not have passed on properly, I wouldn't mind if this turned out as long-lasting as the Simon/Robin talks before they got together or even the Simon/Janine engagement. Also, I did feel the first conversations we got between her and other people were a bit too sexual. While I understand you don't want to write super long and emotional conversations, I would enjoy a bit more emphasis on maybe her still twisted nature and struggles to re-assimilate. The talks she mentioned to Riala between her and Simon about the world and its systems would be fascinating. Still loved it overall.
And Ginasta. I was worried we wouldn't get to see her this update, her appearance was so late. And she's actually having success! Very glad of that. Really since she killed Skullcrusher, every effort by her seemed beset by failures alongside her successes. It would be great if she actually succeeded in killing the Fucklord, just surprising everyone. The crew has spent so long preparing an invasion through Stenai, the Lustlord is playing IK politics, and then Ginasta takes the rug out from everyone's feet. Doubt it will happen, with the 'demon' arc fundamentally changed, but it's a fun thought. I do hope she stays semi-successful though. I'd prefer not having their troubles end by Simon 'saving' her after she loses to the Fucklord. Maybe Ginasta has created a full blown rebellion by the time the crew gets moving, and so they are end up creating a three sided affair where they have to try to fight the Fucklord, avoid Ginasta and her forces who refuse to work with them, and yet still indirectly cooperate against the Fucklord. Having the Crew and Ginasta meet and talk from equal positions would be cool. Now I'm just blabbing though, so I'll simply wait for more Ginasta.
Good luck with all your writing.
I'm glad you enjoyed the update! I did hope Stenai would be a relaxing interlude, not just a bait and switch.
DeleteOn Wendis, I promise you that she has a long road left to travel. In her initial appearances, she was putting lots of effort into being light and flirty, but you'll see some real darkness yet. You'll also definitely get the mentioned conversations about what Wendis knows of the world (next version, actually).
Won't comment on Ginasta except to say that it's a direction most people don't seem to be guessing. Nothing narrative-destroying that would truly shock, but it will be a little different and I hope you'll enjoy it.
Most people don't seem to be guessing you say. Let me take a shot: Given how she cares about other women to the point she had to be called out by the ninja girl while despising those who dominate them (the dark shard bearers), plus her impulsive nature, she will get too carried away with her powers until finding herself in the same position Simon began. That is, she will have to use her power to save some women from corruption claiming them for herself/her harem, becoming what she despises, even if using the light attribute instead (surprise!). Then she will re-conciliate with Simon since he is the reference she has of being able to manage such situation. For added drama she could try to off herself just to be stopped by Simon.
DeleteThere is another possibility, but I doubt it since it is too lame, she being a divine shard bearer, the same shard Wendis is looking for...
I'll just patiently wait for the Ginasta developments, although Ginasta really growing as a rival to Simon is something I'd enjoy.
DeleteOtherwise, Sierra, just several notes I wondered.
1) Unless I forgot a conversation, the final talk with Wendis was the first time the term 'divine shard' was used to refer to Riala's shard. You've already confirmed there will be more talks next update, but is this foreshadowing or merely a different term than 'the other kind of shard'? Mainly asking because it only takes a skip and hop to make the connection that if Incubus Shards=Incubus Kings then Divine Shards=Goddesses. Also fits in that Incubus Kings have been suspected to have enslaved goddesses before, as it implies Incubus Kings and Goddesses are on the same level in regards to transcendence. It would merely be a battle between sexual and divine magic.
2) Wendis consumed an Incubus Shard deep in the Tower, and Esthera was able to become an Incubus King through using the Tower to modify a shard. Yet Wendis is in a state where sexual energy flows through her like a...sieve, I think it was. Is Wendis an Incubus King right now, just one incapable of holding sexual magic? Or did she destroy a shard, merely gaining more energy from it?
On Ginasta: You'll find out over the course of the chapter. ^-^
Delete1) Expect more information from Wendis on this note in 0.38.0!
2) What Wendis did with her shard is very different than what Esthera did. She can manipulate sexual magic but she does not get the usual benefits of being an Incubus King. Right now her state of being is very much "None of the above."
I really don't like how we don't get to choose, while it seems obvious that the small princess can do better than the fat one but damn without the support of both her real, biological father and having an opposition noble family that is stronger than hers and is somewhat supported by her father sounds like a situation way worst than the one Janine ever had.
ReplyDeleteI wanted to take the small girl because if the father chose the fat one despite knowing she might become a puppet that means he had faith on the noble family performing to his expectations, maybe they are just competent given their economical superiority.
Its not that the small one is incompetent, she simply doesn't have the support in her country. I really fear that she will end up like Janine. Even if you tell me she won't, I'd argue without the word of god I will take the small girl any time.
I felt the lack of choice made me do a choice that I will never take. She'd be a good assistant for Janine I imagine, I am OK having another non-harem girl, Fuani is even one of my favorites.
True player choice would be nice but to be fair both princesses had drawn the short straws. Stenai didn't really care if either was gobbled up by a sex crazed fiend. Feremina plays the cute but totally naive fetish while Reletima works for those that like their girls extra chunky with not much going on up stairs. Doubt their families would offer any ransom money for them as both are simply puppets dancing to a tune http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49tpIMDy9BE
DeleteI get what you're saying here. I felt that the direction this will go is unclear enough from the outset that giving a choice would be unfair, hence why I used this section for the bait and switch.
DeleteOK I kinda get it, but if anything happen to her I will be sad. Tyna has Kalant to protect her closely, Ignias is probably a dependable friend and Alonon is still there and he supports Tyna. We also have Farnan who will notify us if he notice anything shady if we made the right choice. Tyna is in a position I can imagine not needing our immediate help even if things go horribly wrong. (Also Tyna is is another of my favorite, I hope she and Kalant get a happy ending, don't need to spoil me on that tho)
DeleteFeremina on the other hand..... Lack of support from the King, having a weaker noble house and as you said, the situation is unclear so is the direction forward. I don't imagine we will be able to help her in time if she is in danger in the future, I can only now pray.
The bait and switch left me pretty confused. First, it came right after a 4th wall breaking moment where you say just kidding. Or before? I forget. And in retrospect I know you just meant you were kidding about the update ending there, but that happened right next to the switch scene that seemed out of character. IIRC, it seemed like they had been planning to choose the not-spoiled girl, letting the king get his chosen heir to rule through the council. Then Cloner McSociopath suggests basically killing and replacing a child for the MC's convenience, then you choose the wrong girl, and I can't think of any reason for it besides to spite the king and the council. Sure you've set the good girl up to help out her family's financial crisis, but that didn't seem enough to set her up as a successful ruler, and leaves us babysitting the brat.
DeleteHi, I'm using a Unix system and I've been playing the game on wine without major issues but then right before the scene transition for Stenai (after the Esthera/Lustlord conversations) the game ends up crashing with a generic exception.
ReplyDeleteIs there any particularities in the way the game handles it's assets to this particular transition so I could investigate it better?
Thanks!
My first guess is that it might be because Stenai uses an mp3 instead of an ogg audio track. This is something I've replaced for the next version, as it can cause problems on various systems, but I believe it was still an mp3 in 0.37.3.
DeleteHere is the ogg, try replacing it and seeing if that helps:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ajrq6vecj8yb3ss/Stenai.ogg?dl=0
Replacing it did the trick so thank you very much for helping me on this.
DeleteApparently the way one such "winegstreamer" handles mp3 media has an ongoing portability issue with its parent gstreamer framework.
I suppose that this little guy could be disabled in winecfg so mp3 would work with the native libs, but I haven't tried it myself.
Oh and let me tell you how much I enjoyed the Wendis twist.
DeleteUp to that point I was pretty comfortable with the "Okay, this is probably the game's Big Bad" line of thought but I almost spilled my coffee when that coffin opened by itself.
Looking forward for more delicious genre-breakers.
Since using mp3s causes some other problems, I will try to be avoiding them in the future. Hopefully that will take care of things.
DeleteAnyway, I am glad you enjoyed the twist. ^-^
Seems to be a hole in the wall when revisiting the tower locations.
ReplyDeletehttps://i.imgur.com/ZD1UMwS.jpg
Ah, question about the princes, are we able to interact with her at the end of the chapter? Can't seem to find her.
As for developments in this chapter, not really fan of resurrection tropes. Maybe because it's often used by some TV series on season 11 to add some drama and light conflicts already resolved.
I can see the potential for the story it can create, but it kinda feels cheap.
True, will fix!
DeleteNo, you can't interact with the princess yet. I scheduled that for 0.38.0, since it requires a new map.
Sorry you didn't like the trope used in this case. As I stated in the outro, it was something I tried to approach carefully, since I think it's something best used sparing, if at all. I hope that TLS as a whole will feel clearly planned, as opposed to a longrunning TV series that intends to prolong itself as long as possible.
Really enjoyed the new update.
ReplyDeleteI do have one question and one a remark/wish however:
Q: research for me is stuck now for a really longe time ... is this right? it feels bugged.
W:i know that Pron is used to make the player decide between different thing... but it feels just wrong, that such an amount of time passed in game with the revenue of several kingdoms nominaly at you disposal without some influx of this. i spent it all and the only pron i got the the miniscule amount from the dungeon. This has the consequence, that i dont feel like i can afford the different staues and so on for the castle. i would wish for a additional way to gain pron in at least medium amounts.
have a good day
I'm glad you enjoyed the new update!
DeleteOn your question, that depends on how long it has been stuck. You only get a new research slot when you finish a major section of the plot that advances the timeline a significant amount. The last time was after returning from Ardford. You're also scheduled to get a new slot in 0.38.0 (and also ProN).
Balancing all these is tricky, but I hope they'll feel reasonable in the final version. Remember that you're being given all these investments to cover the entire rest of the game.
Could we get a scene where Yarra gets scolded for calling us Incubus king? She outs us by to both Megail and Carina and I can't recall her ever getting into trouble for it...
ReplyDeleteHmm. I haven't given this a lot of thought, so I'll think about it.
DeleteWas it her fault though? With Megail it was Simon's fault for letting her walk away, and in the second the area looked clear.
DeleteFor Megail, the party was looking in at the doorway, so if she could walk away, the party was equally to blame for letting her walk. Regardless, I feel she should have shown more discretion than just shouting his title in front of someone that might not have been dominated. I can sort of forgive this one.
DeleteAs for Carina, she and her men were camping literally outside the courtyard they were standing on. It should be a no-brainer to not go shouting the name Incubus King that close to armed clergy. This one is pretty unforgivable in my opinion.
First off, I want to say I've been a fan since once of the earliest versions of this game (I want to say around since it was first posted on Fen's forum and was still called The Last Fucklord) and I haven't been disappointed yet. Your character and world building as well as your sense of humor has always been one of my favorite among adult game devs.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I think I might have a problem owing to the age of my save.
Several versions ago (I want to say around when she was made available to reobtain) Altina was suddenly dropped in my harem. I thought it was strange but it didn't seem to effect anything else so I didn't think much of it.
As of a couple versions ago, though, she's become flagged as an essential character that I can't remove from my party ( https://puu.sh/BtJuU/0feca41c25.png ) and as she's severely underleveled it's starting to become a problem dragging her around.
Can I provide you with my save to see where the problem is or should I just chuck it up and start over (though given how far I am into the game this'll be a little painful)?
Thank you, glad you're still enjoying the game!
DeleteWhile I'm not sure exactly when this bug crept in (and can't find an error currently), there are 3-4 other people who have mentioned it to me. That's enough that I intend to add a special fixer event next version. That should fix your save!
Damn that was a hell of a twist. My emotions are all over the place.
ReplyDeleteI am sorry Sierra, but IMHO this chapter is somewhat below your usual standards. I am perfectly fine with the concept of resurrecting, or rather reanimating, but if one to compare your writing in this chapter with Wynn or Esthera interactions, its doenst fall flat on its face, but clearly stumbles. I think this approach was perfectly viable for Dari, her being a minor and not exactly world wise character, but with Wendis it feels somewhat shallow. When I realized it was her we are dealing with it, I was kind of expecting a longish and bittersweet process of restoring mental state of this half crazy, tortured, confused, angry dangerous and aggressive but dearly loved character. Instead, we go fight some fights, play with some levers and even before the ritual is done Wendis is capable of entirely coherent speech and even jokes quite a bit. And initial reaction of Wynn to her life long obsessive love coming back from the other side "wanna do me with those bones?" felt simply wrong. Tears, stupor, hysterical happiness or even a heart attack, sure, but not that. I guess you are a victim of your own outstanding work in my eyes, but I was expecting something like Deionarra from PT without unnecessary melodrama, but definitely not this.I hope you didnt rush it just to give your audience a monthly release , or maybe I am not seeing a big picture here and this is just a tiny and largely insignificant part of Wendis' mental healing and being too critical too soon... In any case, I hope you will not be offended by my 5 cents :)
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You're not the only person to feel this way. I think all I can say at the moment is that I'll be sticking with my original plan, and I hope the developments in 0.38.0 ameliorate your concerns to some degree. There's an element to Wendis that I haven't seen people comment on that will be explored next time.
DeleteI am sure it will be fine in the end. The problem is that you've set the bar quite high and I think lots of people view this not as a game, but rather as an amazing interactive book. So please do not rush it, take your time with this gem and make it shine just like I know you can.
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how close is the game to being complete?
ReplyDeleteShort answer: We're well past 50%, but don't expect it to be finished next month or anything.
DeleteLong answer: Last year I wrote a post outlining the shape of the entire game and what remains to be done:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/14200814
k thanks im really love the story and how so many choices can have different effects on how to world changes and develpoes and starting next paycheck im going to be a patron
DeleteI'm glad you like my writing, and thank you for your support!
DeleteHey Sierra! was playing Desecration of Wings and dumbass me thought it was okay to rely on the autosave...so problem is i got out of a bad fight with a storm spirit with Fellaina near death and Trill(a?i?) at 100HP...and dumbass me stumbled upon the immortal compound next, which thrusts me straight into a fight with the undead, with no opportunity to heal, and as i try to reload the autosave...it's stuck me there, in an unwinnable situation.
ReplyDeletethought i should let you know! just a little upsetting, even though it's mostly my fault, but it's frustrating after about 1hour 45 minutes of gameplay to get it stuck like that. Thanks!
I'm sorry to hear you had such a negative experience.
Deleteeesh, i realized I put nothing actionable for you out there. basically was letting you know in case you wanted to maybe heal the party before it enters the immortal compound, or maybe a little warning "i feel once we enter we won't have much time to ourselves, so we should be ready and get some rest". If you deem that worthy of an update, or just roll that in when you next update, if you decide to fix it. Oof again.
DeleteI added an autoheal to the event, though I don't know when I'll push another update. But as a general warning, DoW is a less forgiving game than most of my others, and will not be friendly for autosaves regardless.
Deletethere is a bug at the purifying the river quest at denmiel (lynine side). after i kill all the crazy elf but not purify the corrpt and then leave the map and then back to it again. the game think that there still crazy elf left untouched. but i already make sure there is no elf yet but lynine keep talking as if its still there. it mean i stuck. help
ReplyDeleteI can guess what the bug might be, but unfortunately, this is going to be extremely difficult to diagnose or fix remotely. Did you do anything while you left the map?
Deletesorry for late reply. i'm doing the talking with 2 elf at twisted glen.
DeleteSorry I can't be more help. >.< Consider asking for help on the wiki as well, but if not, I will try to get back to help more once I deal with the recent update.
Deleteno prob. i'll wait for the bug fix
Deleteyo just finish bashing in my computer(which didnt break it) then fell aslep on it and it got water damage(lol usless information) anyays im wondering if there is any storyline past the war arc? i forgot what version i was on.... but im waiting for the next update before i replay the game all over again..
ReplyDeleteSorry about your computer! Anyway, the war ended with 0.29.0 and we're currently on 0.38.x - there's quite a bit of content in chapter four, both aftermath of the war and introducing new plot elements.
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