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TLS 0.46.2
- Minor fixes.
- Improved chapter iteration thanks to Decanter.
This is a nice little update to kick off the chapter, I think. Hope everyone enjoys it! I have some side projects coming down the pipeline, but I'm also eager to get into the next update, which you'll see set up at the end of this update.
If you replay past sections or check the Ledger, you'll note that investments have been reorganized. There are no mechanical changes, this is just to make checking investments easier. Expect further improvements in the future, then we'll standardize them a bit more.
I'm half-asleep right now, so maybe I will understand it tomorrow, but I have no idea of what this means:
ReplyDeleteImproved chapter iteration thanks to Decanter.
Could be that chapter iteration be the same as chapter transition?
Any chance of a Trin's Ledger for the copies?
BTW, what has Yuaron has done during the whole chapter 4? I'm curious about his exploits. Will we eventually learn something about them?
When you advance to a new phase of the chapter, an iteration event runs. This includes getting your investment results, and those results are now better organized on different pages.
DeleteA Trin Ledger has been on the "maybe sometime" list for a long time.
Expect more Zirantia in the last chapter!
Nice little update. Problem: We have Sarai or we can have her depending on the decisions and when we have here she is silent after that? I don´t expect her to be there but maybe a Iris: Sarai send a message she doesn´t know anything useful and is suspicious? For me it was the same as if we wound find something new about Orcs in the tower and when we are back our Orc specialist isn´t even mentioned. Simons Incubus strike doesn´t count as Sexual? according to the Tortoise or isn´t it sexy enough for Yarra ;)
ReplyDeleteI really like the art for the Spigers or Tiders? Also adorable Qum. Keep going.
Sarai will be present with a lot to say next update!
DeleteIncubus Strike is a physical attack. If Simon could deal consistent sexual damage he'd make using the succubi much rarer.
Updated Dominate i'd say is a pretty consistent sexual damage strike. Even against the toroise
DeleteGood to know still no answer to the question are they spigers or Tiders ;)? So it isn´t a discount precise strike and more a powerful blow fuled by an incubus shard. And yes updated Dominate is nicer than the old one.
DeleteWait wait wait.
ReplyDeleteWe have only one chapter left, but Simon's harem is only 65% complete?
True, looks like we'll have to add a lot of goddesses and demons :-)
DeleteAlmost all of the 35% is characters you already know, they've just taken a while to reach that point.
Deletelittle bug: in the cinematic simon appears at the center of the girls, and then he teleports with wendis again
ReplyDeleteI believe this only happens when continuing from the waiting room, so I can live with the temporary visual glitch.
DeleteI thought he came with Wendis and was practicing beeing two Simons at the same time.
DeleteI really wonder if we can expect more about unpeople. We still know very little about them and their fate in new world.
ReplyDeleteHow exactly are they created?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but only someone very powerful who knows the mysteries of the Tower should be able to create immortal soldiers like unpeople.
More about Vhala!
Somehow it seems to me that because we can't have sex with Vhala, she is often neglected. No new dialogues, interviews, opinions. You should show her some love too.
It hasn't been stated in the game, but the process to create Unpeople doesn't require high Tower magic. I've mostly avoiding going into detail to let players fill in their own details for how nightmarish the process is.
DeleteAnyway, I'm glad Vhala has her fans. ^-^ She and the Unpeople will continue to play a role in the story.
Well, since the Incubus Emperor was able "fuck their lust away" and create unsuccubus, I assumed that creating unpeople would be something opposite with the help of holy magic. Something like locking all pleasure and some emotions (or burn them with holy light).
DeleteWhat I don't understand is why they are immortal (they do not age). Therefore, I assumed the participation of some very powerful being and manipulation of the tower energy.
If is so easy to create immortal soldiers and you don't need powerful individual or a tower, the church should definitely (and should have done it a long time ago) create legions of the holy paladins that would destroy all orcs, demons and their masters. In addition, it makes Simon's quest "immortal harem" little silly. He can simply ask the people who created the unpeople, analyze the process and replicate only the part that makes people immortal.
Therefore, I think this process should be explained a bit more in the game. (I really love the game you created and I like to analyze in detail all the lore you wrote.)
P.S.
I would like to thank you for actively responding to virtually every question people ask. Only a small percentage of developers do this and I really appreciate your willingness.
TO give more my own thoughts on this before SL slams us with the Cannon.
DeleteSimon mentions at one point back when the first unpeople were being made that there WAS a push to create entire armies of unpeople, but sensible High Priestesses like Hester put a stop to it, for reasons of, "Need to ensure we still have a future to fight for."
And if you think about it a legion of unpeople WOULD be tempting to crush the IK but there would be serious damage postwar. I can imagine that if suddenly a good chunk of your population was suddenly made of un-aging, emotionally stunted, killing machines that there would be some..."problems" afterwards. And problems that wouldn't go away in ten generations if the unpeople really don't age.
As for the second part, I don't think it is quite time to call them 'immortal' just yet. Keep in mind they've only been around for 40 or so years. So whether they are truly ageless, or simply age far slower is yet to be seen.
As for WHY they seem to have stopped aging, it was never stated but I have to imagine it relates to what King Alonon told us.
"All things are made up of a mix of lust and purity".
My own interpretation of that being, "Purity sustains existing life, while lust creates new ones."
But the higher concentration of lust-the shorter the lives. Succubus are 90% lust and live to 40. Drawves are the opposite and live to 300.
And so I imagine Unpeople with all the lust driven out of them, age at a snails pace if at all.
But that being the case, I really don't think that will be how our group gets its immortality, assuming Yarra's response would be, "What the point of living forever if ya can't fuck?"
Anon: Your answer is pretty much correct, so mine will actually duplicate yours...
Delete>I would like to thank you for actively responding to virtually every question people ask. Only a small percentage of developers do this and I really appreciate your willingness.
Oh, it's my pleasure! I may miss a few questions, and sometimes I can't respond in much depth, but I'm glad to have people caring about my stories. ^-^
It's never been made explicit, but the game has actually hinted about that aspect of the Unpeople in Alonon's statements. The process of creating Unpeople is at a less fundamental level of magic, but the effect is akin to scouring someone with elemental purity. This is why Unpeople don't age, though it should be noted that they've existed for less than a full lifetime. Vhala doesn't age naturally, but she's not a Tower-forged immortal. The lifespan is also inseparable from the burned out sexuality (so Dari is aging normally again).
Anon: I remember the things you mentioned. I also remember that the only reason the free kingdoms was not destroyed was fact that the Incubus Emperor was an idiot who was easily distracted (and zero cooperation of others Incubus kings)
DeleteTherefore, I wonder why the Church did not act. How desperate things would have to be to approve the creation army of holy paladins?
"Purity sustains existing life, while lust creates new ones."
I agree with this statement. But because both are elemental parts of the tower, I thought that if you wanted to change share in a human being, you needed someone really special and powerful.
Sierra Lee: "The lifespan is also inseparable from the burned out sexuality"
This is an ifnormation we needed :-)
I guess that only last question remain.
Are unpeople infertile? (Sexuality and fertility are two different things)
Anyway, this whole issue is very interesting. You should really consider add to the game a couple of clarifications. Given that unpeople are practically exiles and everyone hates them, maybe Simon could employ them.
BTW:
I never really understood hatred towards unpeople. Why would anyone hate war heroes, who are sexy women that don't age? Sure, they can't enjoy sex, but that doesn't mean they can't do it (although it must resemble sex with an inflatable sex doll). Every man should love unpeople women! :D
The Church did create a significant number of Unpeople, and as mentioned they helped turn the tide of the war. They took heavy casualties in the process, however.
Delete>Are unpeople infertile?
Utterly. Most don't have identifiable genitals and their testes/ovaries are completely gone.
>I never really understood hatred towards unpeople. Why would anyone hate war heroes, who are sexy women that don't age? Sure, they can't enjoy sex, but that doesn't mean they can't do it (although it must resemble sex with an inflatable sex doll). Every man should love unpeople women! :D
You might find the character models sexy, but in-universe they don't feel natural. In the same way that succubi consider them abominations, other races are generally uncomfortable around them. It would also be very hard to mime sex with an Unperson - note how the Fucklord backed off during his conversation with Vhala.
I hope I will (not) sound like a complete pervert when I say that: "Every woman has more than one hole that can be filled." :-)
DeleteI am absolutely sure that at least two holes still must usable (even unpeople still have to eat and get rid of waste) and sex would be perfectly normal.
I don't agree with you, but I understand what you mean. It's like a man entering a bar where all the other men are neutered. They still look normal and behave almost normal, but they are somehow different, unnatural, and you feel uneasy aroud them.
But I still think that all hate is undeserved. If I lived in your world, I'd find a group of pretty unpeople women and set up a harem. Sexy women who don't age and can't get pregnant... Every man's dream! Plus, I'm almost sure they wouldn't even be jealous.
I'm pretty sure she meant that unperson Aura isn't just a 'feeling' but an actual PHYSICAL force and phenomenon. And no matter how 'sexy' they might look in a picture, standing just near one would make your balls shrivel up and dick run far far away. Like someone was constantly pouring freezing water directly on your spin ect It was enough for even the FL to shudder when thinking of getting a blowjob from Vhala, enough that the 4 rapists put in a cell with Dari began projectile vomiting once her pants came off.
DeleteSoooooooo
Dari was an exception even between unpeople. FL and other kings gain their strength through lust and sexuality. That's why Simon felt so weak at the start of the game. A woman who emits zero sexuality was useless for him because she cannot influence her and cannot gain anything from her (that is why unpeople were so useful during the war). But Vhala still seemed attractive to him, until he looked inside.
DeleteP.S.
This is a wonderful discussion.
Are we still allowed to invest and open the incubus ruin this episode? The walkthrough says it was the last chance after the war but I'm 1 mil Pron short
ReplyDeleteYou can't invest at all this update. When you next get a chance, you'll be able to open the ruins but the Incubus Pin will be gone.
Deletethat wont bode well for my completionist side. time to redo investments to fit it lol
DeleteMaybe I missed it in the dialogue, but how much time passed between chapters 4 and 5?
ReplyDeleteAlso, as always I really enjoyed the update and look forward to the next one.
It wasn't stated explicitly, but it took them around three months to figure out the magic to reach the Deepwilds. Glad you enjoyed the update!
DeleteIs there a new round of research just before the new chapter ? When I try to talk to Riala for that, I don't have any dialogue.
ReplyDeleteDepending on your Tower results from the war, the mages might be too busy to start more research.
DeleteWhen i start the chapter i get teleported to the Deepwilds immediatly. After that, we get the Stineford cutscene and i can't talk to Riala at all. Is it a bug or are we not supposed to be able to access to research yet?
DeleteYou have to start the research before the end of chapter 4.
DeleteLostone2 is right; you won't get a research chance in Chapter 5 until after the initial events.
DeleteA peek into my brain:
ReplyDelete"Crystal of Ivala... I recognize that phrase... Oh right!
https://imgur.com/Ya63TCx
We finally found it!" That was the goal of the game, right? ;)
God damn, talk about foreshadowing.
DeleteI have fun. ^-^
DeleteForum Fenoxo, Sierra Lee, 23 Nov 2016 :
Delete"The starter quests are entirely tongue-in-cheek. Kai thinks there is something called the "Crystal of Ivala" but there is not."
The Last Sovereign TV Tropes :
Some entries in Kai's quest journal in the prologue are prophetic.
"Defeat the King: Attempt to defeat the Incubus King. Invade the fortress." Simon storms the Incubus King's actual fortress much later with a far more advanced strategy.
"Build a Harem: Select the finest women from all the realms. Find a harem mistress." After obtaining his shard, one of the first things that happens to Simon is Yarra offering up her services to him as his self-proclaimed harem mistress.
"Gather an Army: Recruit soldiers to fight for you. Find the succubus mercenaries." Though no succubus mercenaries actually appear, a decent chunk of Chapter 2 is spent rounding up various elements to act as a fledgling army. These groups include human mercenaries and succubus volunteers.
Wooowww.... You've planned that far ahead ?!!! My hat's off to you dude.(Well, you're not a dude, but the feeling is still there)
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ReplyDeleteIs it intentional that the new ledger only works when Megail gives you your profits, but doesn't work from your inventory?
ReplyDeleteAlso, just FYI, I was replaying the Estaven-Entity scene, and during it he says "You've think that's gonna work?" which I think is a typo.
The new investment organization is being refined - once it's finished, it will be used for the Ledger as well.
DeleteTypo fixed, thanks!
Hello, I love the Deepwilds Shrine music. Is it possible to get the whole music somewhere? I didn't listen to such a nice song in a game since Rampant's Music Box Waltz, I really enjoy it.
ReplyDeleteThanks in advance
You could get the file out of the game folders, but otherwise I can't help you.
DeleteI know it's late, but just after Robin Stand, when Simon teleports in the Fucklord harem, could you make all the Fucklord slaves turn towards Simon ? I mean when a random person teleports, it's gotta catch your attention, right ? When you talk to him too.
ReplyDeleteRequests like this aren't unreasonable, but right now I'm mentally pretty deep in the next update. When I replay this scene eventually I'll see if I feel the characters don't turn enough.
DeleteDon't worry, it's okay, your powerful mind's is ruling a whole world after all, deciding fates and... Well, we found the truth after all !!! Sierra is the true mastermind !!! ^^
DeleteJokes aside, here are 2 others questions I had :
First, will we be able to add the Tower Crossroads to our Tower base or is it bound to Erosia? Because it was beautiful and it would be cool to add more parts of the Tower to our base I think. The DeepWilds are another suggestion (the windmill !!!)
The second question was if the orc crew (aka uniques) would have better/refined/new skills. After all they have survived many battles and 2 major wars and they have a specialised group of hardened veterans who would be more than happy to help them improve themselves.
Also when we send reserve troops to help Fheliel, she says : "This is a war between three Incubus Kings. The time for holding back has passed." But... It's four ? Doom King, Empress, Lustlord, Fucklord.
DeleteThe Tower Crossroads location was created to span the distance between several areas, but the party will add some more Tower locations to their base.
DeleteI've planned one more combat section for the unique orcs, but I'm not sure if they'll have new skills.
I'll have to reread that line of dialogue, but Fheliel may have been thinking of the Doom King as the Empress's vassal, as opposed to a fourth side.
Also, an audio bug : just after the Fucklord is hit by the Church spells after his message, you can hear the sound of the inventory closing. Sorry if it isn't clear. That and giving you more work.
DeleteI don't think that's an audio bug, I think it was just the sound used to represent the Fucklord's transmission closing off by the church's attack.
DeleteT. Scout is correct.
DeleteWhen we fight Ginasta, Simon says to give him a moment to emerge from the armor, but it's still the Doom King who fight.
DeleteOh, and when we left Estaven to his suffering, the music of "Erosian Dungeon" comes back for a second, which breaks the immersion.
DeleteUnrelated, but I miss the sound when Wendis turns back to Evil/Azura form. It goes with everything ^^
Sabitha : "Some of them he twisted himself, but the others were loyal to me. I summoned those and let them think it was his army". Souldn't it be "let him think it was his army" ? I don't see why she would want the demons to believe they're under Estaven's orders since it's her who told them what to do.
Delete>When we fight Ginasta, Simon says to give him a moment to emerge from the armor, but it's still the Doom King who fight.
DeleteUh, I'll have to check on this.
>Oh, and when we left Estaven to his suffering, the music of "Erosian Dungeon" comes back for a second, which breaks the immersion.
Music coming back when changing maps is an unfortunate limitation of the engine, to my knowledge.
>Sabitha : "Some of them he twisted himself, but the others were loyal to me. I summoned those and let them think it was his army". Souldn't it be "let him think it was his army" ? I don't see why she would want the demons to believe they're under Estaven's orders since it's her who told them what to do.
You're correct - fixed!
Did the Fucklord harem figured out Simon is the Doom King ? Or do they think he's an extremely skilled sexual magic general ?
DeleteOh, and will we be able to clear the Order of Silence basement ? It's been a while and I want to help them. I really want to fight the "Balrog" of Eustrin too, but I think that will be for when Eustrin reopens, right ? I know, no spoilers.
DeleteAlso need to solve the mystery of the missing horsies.
DeleteThe Fucklord's harem knows the truth. It might have been possible for Simon to help them without revealing that, but it would have been a challenge and he didn't attempt to trick them.
DeleteNo comment on future events, other than to say that you can expect a lot of payoff to occur in the last chapter. Except for the missing horsies, which are a mystery that humanity was never meant to understand.
Horses as deepest mystery confirmed?
DeleteSecret horse tower level which you can only reach by combining Orcent's eyepatch with a Scroll of Town Portal in the Horadric Cube?
"He who controls horses, controls destiny!" -Alonon probably
There is no horse Tower level.
DeleteBeen a while since we seen Min too. Miss her.
ReplyDeleteProbably the most popular tertiary character, haha. You can expect to see her again in the update after Stineford, when the player can again travel freely.
DeleteOh, and just after the announcement with Ivala, the purple filter of the Tower is off.
ReplyDeleteI'll try to take a look at it sometime, thanks.
DeleteI might be late, but if it's possible to have an option to disable the art (if it's already added since you have plans), not just in this game but for other games as well? I just like the text.
ReplyDeleteTLS will have an option to be text-only, but other games won't, sorry.
DeleteAfter reaching the End of Version 0.46.0 Patreon Beta, is it possible to simply continue the Game after updating it( downloaded it via Steam)
ReplyDeleteYou can transfer your save files between versions just by moving the files from one folder to another. This is true for the Steam version too, though you'll need to find the Steam folder.
DeleteHey Sierra, will it be possible to access the Ancient Ruins dungeon in Chapter 5? That 5 million ProN investment really hurts, but it would hurt even more if I'd be locked out of the dungeon completely...
ReplyDeleteNevermind, I found a comment somewhere earlier that it will be possible, but doing it in Chapter 5 locks us out of getting the Incubus King Pin. So it's the sub-optimal solution at the least.
ReplyDeleteSo, just to confirm - after the Erosian War final chapter 4 investments phase we have the LAST CHANCE to get the Pin?
Damn it, that 5 million hurts almost as much as spending real life money...
That's correct, that's your last chance. The high price is intended as a challenge of another sort.
DeleteDear Sierra,
ReplyDeletePart of me is exited for the final chapter, the other one wants to kidnap you and force you to make it up till chapter 9001. Honestly this is the best indie game I have ever downloaded, and as long and rough as it is I will remember it very fondly forever. I still remember the first time I played, the retarded hero died and the line " this story isn't about you" popped up, I lost it and Simon hasn't disappointed since then. I will keep my wishes for a remake to myself (hehe) and wait for your next project whenever you get around to it.
Dear Anonimus:
DeleteDo you mind if we use your message on the the main page of the wiki?
It would be under the "Fans descriptions" pseudo-heading.
Go ahead,I only said what I would say again.
DeleteI'm glad you've enjoyed the game so much! There's still quite a bit of content left, but yes, we're approaching the end. I hope that in the end you'll agree that a satisfying conclusion is better than persisting on for too long.
DeleteAs for a remake... maybe in 25 years. =P
Lols that remake gonna be like virtual reality version =D. A good Satisfying ending is the only thing I can wish for ( Proven by Game of Thrones Season 8) so ill be looking forward to it.
DeleteI wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment in Anonimus' quote, but I find myself wondering if the front page of the wiki should contain a quote with a spoiler for the prologue...
DeleteHmmm. Okay, maybe that it's a bit spoilery. I didn't think about it, tbh. Having said that, the wiki is full of spoilers, so...
DeleteThat is a fair point, if you still want to use my post cutting out the spoiler doesn't really change it much so I am fine with it.
DeleteBy the way, not really related to the next update, but how did you meet your wonderful team of helpers? Did they contact you first or is it the reverse?
ReplyDeleteThey're almost all patrons who are passionate about the game and offer their services for some element they particularly cared about.
DeleteI just though of something way, way too funny to keep to myself. If... No, when we will have rescued Ivala, will we be able to let her meet with the priestess in Feroholm? Please, please make it possible.
ReplyDeleteAlso about Feroholm, will there be any changes in the future? I mean one of our goals when we set off on our long journey (way, way back) was to improve the living conditions of Feroholm, but 4 years later and 3 Incubus Kings down (among others meaningful things), nothing have changed. Ah yes, we got kicked out of our home. If we've done our politics right, we should have enough influence to help, don't we?
Oh, and they don't have family names? Like how they don't celebrate birthdays?
No comment on Ivala, but regarding Feroholm... keep your eyes peeled during the upcoming update!
DeleteBoth the birthdays and family names are based on some early medieval traditions, where people didn't track such things very carefully. Nobles have family names, but not most average people.